Curse

fb2000 · May 21, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

sorry, but ectos WILL increase in value.. they are already..

reason?

i attribute it to the very gay Factions storyline/pve options, more and more people are simply interested in high-end trades.. so itll go higher

Sagius Truthbarron · May 21, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Theus

Because people realized that FoW armor is more time/effort/gold than its worth.

Not to mention..its so funny to see players with FoW armor who are still relatively horrid at the game.

Yeah. I usually don't pickup Warriors in full FoW becuase I know they spend most of their time farming and usually aren't very good in a team.

Or, atleast, I save those warriors for last.

With introduction of new characters Ecto prices will just rise. Every farmer will want their new classes in shiny FoW armor.

Cowboy Nastyman · May 21, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by Avarre

I got my Fissure when they were 13k+ each. Then they dropped.

bought my mesmer fissure at that time too avarre ^_^

dfscott · May 23, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Unless ANet comes up with another use for ectos, I can only see them dropping. People bought Obsidian armor for 3 reasons:

1) it's 1337
2) you can mix and match stats w/o looking hodgepodge
3) they like the appearance and it wasn't that hard to farm for it

#1 is subjective, so we'll assume it hasn't changed.
#2 isn't an issue since all Factions armor works this way now
#3 is less of an issue since we Factions just doubled the number of armor selections for existing classes.

So we've gone from 3 reasons to about 1-1/2. More chapters are likely to introduce new choices and dilute the desire for Obsidian even more.

Edit: BTW, I bought my mesmer's FoW when ecto was in the 9-11K range -- and my reason was #3.

heaven · May 23, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

I have seen a lot more WTB ecto than WTS ecto. As long as ecto remains as the currency of high trading, it will hold value.

AxeMe · May 23, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54

My guess is that ecto will slowly rise above the current selling price but I doubt that it will ever reach the levels (10, 11k and even higher) during the time I bought my FOW armor.

Here's something to think about though. Other prices have dropped as well - Factions and its new weapons, items and the perfect stat items available from collectors there - have balanced the fall in ectos price.

So, if you want to think of an ecto as something like a dollar in the real world, one ecto (because of the lower prices) will still buy about the same amount of goods in the same. Many swords that brought in 100k plus some ectos now sell for 50k or lower. You could even make the argument - based on this - that ectos are still "worth" about what they used to be.

(It's a different story with FOW armor since the requirements for ectos and shards have not changed. FOW armor is defintely cheaper these days and that's a good idea too. That may mean that it just becomes another choice based on how it looks. I think there will be a lot less bashing of FOW-wearing characters when the bashers can afford it).

dreamhunk · May 23, 2006, 06:48 PM // 18:48

I was able to buy 10 ecto for 2.5 each

I think ectos will fall even more now that there is new armor sets

shadowfell · May 23, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

Basically... look at the new armors, the 15k kurzick, luxons and in some cases, the canthans. Even the new 1.5 armors have better looks than FoW. Who would really want to shell out for that ugly stuff of the past? I was thinking of getting FoW for my ranger, and then I saw 1.5 kurzick and 15k end game and that sealed the deal. I started offloading my ecto at every price spike chance I got. I want nothing to do with it anymore and honestly, I think the prices are going to fall even more. It's just the traders and the new players holding onto it, at this point. I guess it's like keeping poly in your closet just in case disco suddenly makes a come back.

Chilly Ress · May 24, 2006, 01:26 AM // 01:26

I persnally think they will begin to incline once again becase of new fissure armors for ch2 and possibly ch3, but you never know.

generik · May 24, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

As a sidenote I hope Rubies and Sapphires will see some use in the coming chapters

noblepaladin · May 24, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Ecto was also used as a trade currency (i.e. People trading rare items for 100k gold and certain amount of ectos) so it caused artificial inflation. Some people just held onto huge stores of ecto. After factions came out, nobody wanted to hold onto ectos, they want the new armors, to buy the new skills, etc. There are many more gold sinks that people want to invest in so they all wanted to convert their ectos in their storage into gold. So the price of ecto went down. Also, after all these new skinned items and greens came out, there are very few items that are worth more than 100k. So there is less reason to use ecto as currency. And after ecto became unstable, people are less willing to hang onto them as currency for trade.

Don Zardeone · May 24, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

What are you guys talking about

Ecto is 6.5k and rising at merchant sell price.

Whoever sold it to you at 3k each or less needs to be in my friendslist asap...

Arknow · May 24, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

to me it seems it all boils down to the awsomely wack fact of the 100k trade limit,

200 would be a start, but a 500k cap would rock and finish killing ectos all together

Maria The Princess · May 24, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

sometime before i posted here saying that ecto will go down ALOT and that we should sell em now(back then)... and was laughted at

Jedimagician · May 24, 2006, 03:54 AM // 03:54

i think that they will slowly creap up as more people realise you need them for rits and sins.

i dont think they will ever go back as high as 9k each (more like 6-7kea) as you can get them from tombs as well as UW

EternalTempest · May 24, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

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Originally Posted by Arknow

to me it seems it all boils down to the awsomely wack fact of the 100k trade limit,

200 would be a start, but a 500k cap would rock and finish killing ectos all together

I have to disagree with rasing the cap, I think it would turn in to 200k or 500k + Ecto trades....

Jetdoc · May 24, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

I've been watching this for a while, and I believe that the main economy for ectos is driven primarily by the availability of cash in the marketplace.

In other words, when people spend a ton of cash, the price of ectos at the trader will go down because those people aren't going to the rare material trader to buy ectos.

When they have a ton of cash, they are likely to buy ectos from the trader, which inflates the price.

Right now, ectos are dipping in price because everyone is spending money on their new armors, acquiring minipets, etc. I believe that this will tail off soon, and you'll have tons of players with nice stockpiles of cash wondering "what do I buy next?" FoW armor is the logical answer for that, as items have really taken a hit in value with all of the greens out there. These relatively wealthy players will then visit the rare material trader and you'll see a gradual increase in ecto prices yet again.

I believe this is definitely a "buy low" time in the game.

William Stark · May 24, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

In Chapter One the ecto and shard prices were much higher, depite attempts by ANet to bring them under control (which I suppose were at least partially successful). In my opinion the high price was self-sustaining because it made them more desirable (the more expensive the armour is, the more it becomes a status symbol, thus the higher demand).

Also, there were limited goals for experienced players. The new titles have suddenly opened up a whole new set of goals. I've had the materials for my final pieces of FoW warrior armour sitting in storage since factions came out, but haven't got around to crafting them yet. Instead I've been uncovering odd bits of the map and capping skills, as well as trying to get through the new story.

If you add in the expanded range of armour types we have to choose from now, FoW is just not such a high priority. As someone once said 'the only thing of real value in game is time', and there just isn't enough of that to spare. Despite the low ecto prices I can't even motivate myself to buy them right now- they just seem like something I'll get around to later.

Lord Shazneri · May 24, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Arknow

to me it seems it all boils down to the awsomely wack fact of the 100k trade limit,

200 would be a start, but a 500k cap would rock and finish killing ectos all together

Not Feasible - Then they would be catering to the Bot farming then accounts could hold massive amounts of gold.

Ectos are just Ectos will always be pricey due to the trade 100k+ecto on rare skins, I don't think the FoW armor is much of a Driving point of raising the cost because Ectos are so easy to get.

Right now GW has so much Gold in circulation that the market has just sludged down. I played GWF last night for 2 hours and made almost 22k in drops and turning in quests. Not to mention the 3 Perfect Gold Max weapons I got from Luxon Chests and have not had a chance to sell.

I know I will probably get flamed for this but I think We still need some more Gold Sinks to get the economy back to the way it was. But I know GW and ANet want everyone to get what they want in terms of skins. They are not so much worried about the economy.

capblueberry · May 24, 2006, 04:06 PM // 16:06

im glad cuz now im getting closer to being able to buy FoW armor